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Thunder Spring Trail Loop

Thunder Spring Trail Loop

In This Guide
  • Video and Turn-by-Turn Directions for the Thunder Spring Trail Hike
  • How to Get to the Thunder Spring Trail
  • Insider Tips and Recommendations for the Hike
Total Distance (?)4.2 miles (6.8 km)
Hike Time2 Hours (Total)
Difficulty (?)Moderate
Total Ascent (?)900 feet (274m)
Highest Elevation5,345 feet (1629m)
Fees & PermitsEntry Fee
Dogs AllowedNo
Alerts & Closures (?)Palomar Mountain State Park
Park Phone760-742-3462
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The Thunder Spring Trail Loop is one of the quieter hikes in Palomar Mountain State Park; it’s a great hike to get away from it all. The scenery is lush, with lots of pines, cedars, and in the spring, wildflowers. You have a climb that will get your heart rate up, but is not too tough. And along the way, you visit a historic homesteader’s cabin site. Overall it’s a nice trail and a good time.

Where is the Thunder Spring Trail?

The Thunder Spring Trail hike is located in Palomar Mountain SP. Drive into the park and follow the signs for Doane Pond. There’s also a (private) retreat by the pond that might be more GPS-friendly. Use this trailhead address:
Camp Palomar, 34798 Doane Valley Rd, Palomar Mountain, CA 92060

There is an entry fee to enter Palomar Mountain State Park.

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Park at the Doan Pond Day Use Area.
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You won’t have to worry about finding parking here, the lot is big. The trail starts on the far side of the parking lot.

Gear For the Hike

The main challenge on this hike can be poison oak and nettles. Wearing long pants solves the problem, just make sure you don’t touch your pants if you go through a patch. And there can be gnats, so bring insect repellant. Otherwise this is a straightforward backcountry hike with lots of shade. I bring 1L of water.

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Garmin Inreach Mini 2

Garmin InReach Mini 2
I’m a firm believer in carrying a satellite communications device which works where cell phones don’t. I use a Garmin InReach which lets me send text messages back and forth to my family to let them know that I’m okay or if my plans change when I’m out in the backcountry. It also has an SOS subscription built-in so that you can reach first-responders in an emergency. The devices also offer weather reports, GPS, and navigation functionality (what’s the difference between a GPS and satellite communicator?). For a few hundred bucks they could save your life, so for me it’s a no brainer to have something like a Garmin InReach. If you use a smartphone to navigate and want a more affordable option that integrates with your phone easily, check out the ZOLEO.

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Lone Peak 6 Yellow

Altra Lone Peak 6
For most people, the Altra Lone Peak is a solid choice that will leave your feet feeling great at the end of any hike. The feel is cushy and light, and if it had a car equivalent, this would be a Cadillac or Mercedes Sedan. The grip is great and they’re reasonably durable for this type of trail runner, which I think is better in most conditions than a hiking boot, and here’s why. The downside of this shoe is that it won’t last as long as something like the Terraventure 3 or Moab 2 (see alternate footwear choices at the bottom of my gear page). I’ve been using mine for many miles and my feet always feel great. I have a video on the details of the Altra Lone Peak 6 here.

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Black Diamond Ergo Poles 2

Black Diamond Trail Ergo Cork Trekking Poles
I’ve gone back and forth on trekking poles, but I think for most people they are a good investment. They help you dig in on the uphills, provide stability on loose downhills, act as a brace when crossing streams, and can probably poke away aggressive wildlife in a pinch. The Trail Ergo Cork poles are a good balance of light weight, durability, affordability, and ease of use. If you want something ultralight and a little more pricey, I’ve had great luck with the Black Diamond Z Poles too.

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Gregory Zulu 30

Gregory Zulu 30 & Jade 28
After testing quite a few backpacks, the Gregory Zulu 30 (and Jade 28 for women) is, for most hikers, the best all-season day-pack. First off, it’s very comfortable, and the mesh “trampoline” back keeps your back dry. Its 30L capacity is enough for all the essentials and plenty of layers for winter hiking. External pockets make it easy to grab gear. It’s hard to find something wrong with the pack; if anything, it could be a bit lighter, but overall, it’s not heavy. And its price-point makes it not only affordable but generally a great value.

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Here’s my complete gear list that I personally use, have tested, and recommend, updated June 2022.

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Thunder Spring Trail Maps

Overall the trails are easy to follow and well-marked with signs. You can also save a copy of the handy park handout map which keeps things simple.

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Explore Map on CalTopoView a Printable PDF Hike MapDownload the Hike GPX File

If you try to download the GPX file and your browser adds a “.txt” or “.xml” extension to it, simply rename it as a “.gpx” file.

Gaiagps

How Are You Going to Navigate This Hike?
Here’s what I use. If you are a hardcore hiker and/or hike in extreme conditions, I recommend getting a dedicated GPS like a GPSMAP 66sr or 66i, or a wrist-based GPS with maps like the Garmin Fenix 7 or Epix. If you only hike in fair weather and a touchscreen is fine, or just want a solid tool, I highly recommend downloading the smartphone app, Gaia GPS. It’s a piece of cake to use and very powerful, just make sure your phone is in airplane mode so the battery doesn’t drain. You can also check for wildfires, weather, snow, and choose from dozens of map types with a premium membership (HikingGuy readers get a big discount here). Note that I also carry a paper map with me in case the phone dies or gets smashed.

To access this guide when out of cell phone range on the trail, simply save the webpage on your phone ( iPhoneAndroid ).

Elevation Profile

Thunder Spring Trail Loop Elevation
This profile makes the hike look like a big mountain climb. It’s a climb, but only 900 feet total. Once you’re at the top, it’s almost all downhill back to the start.

3D Map

Thunder Spring Trail 3d Map Elevation
We’ll follow the loop clockwise, and climb up along Chimney Creek and Upper Doane Valley. Once we arrive at Chimney Flats, we hike up the ridge, and then back down to the start.

Thunder Spring Trail Hike Directions

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Video Directions

Turn by Turn Directions

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Start at the large trailhead at the end of the parking lot.
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Our next landmark is Thunder Spring.
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You’ll pass bathrooms on your right.
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When you get to the junction at the big tree, make the left.
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Stay on the trail that circles Doane Pond, which is a popular fishing spot.

Who is Doane? You can read about him here.

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On the other side of Doane Pond you’ll cross a small bridge. Make the hard left once you cross.
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And now you’ll see a marker that you are on the Thunder Spring Trail. Hike straight.
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The trail gently climbs in the forest.
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Down to your left is Chimney Creek.
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Hike along the old fence.
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And now you get great views into Upper Doane Valley.
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Here you are, glorious Thunder Spring! Well, it’s not so glorious but if you are thirsty, it probably looks a lot more spectacular. Keep hiking straight over the spring.
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You’ll pass through the meadow at the top of Upper Doane Valley.
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And then reach an intersection at the top Upper Doane Valley. Continue straight on the Chimney Flats Trail.
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There’s a trail marker to confirm that you are on the Chimney Flats Trail.
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Now you start the climbing in earnest. Hike up along the upper reaches of Chimney Creek.
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There’s some small switchbacks along the way.
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When the major climbing is over you’ll hike along a fence line.

The land on the other side of the fence belongs to a cattle ranch, something you wouldn’t expect up on Palomar Mountain. If you drive to the observatory you can see the pastures alongside the road. There has been cattle ranching here since 1860, when the Mendenhall family started bringing cows up to the mountain during the summer (and back down into the valley during the winter). The Mendenhall’ls are still owners of the ranch.

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At about 1.6 miles you’ll reach Chimney Flat. Go straight through.
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For the next 0.8 miles or so the trail follows an old shaded dirt road. The road climbs, but it’s gradual overall.
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When you reach the top of the climb, you’ll come out at some roads. Cross the road and look to the left.
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You’ll see the start of a trail just across the road.
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Now you’re on the Scott’s Cabin Trail. It’s mostly downhill from here.
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When you get to the apple orchard, stay straight. The orchard was planted over 100 years ago by the Scott family who owned this land.
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You’ll notice that the big trees are gone, replaced by younger pines. This area got hit by the 2007 Poomcha fire, which destroyed 65% of the park.
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Go straight when you see the Silvercrest Picnic Area trail connector on the left.
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And then at about 3 miles in you’ll reach Scott’s Cabin. On the left is the cleared area where the cabin stood.
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On the right is all the timber that the cabin was built with.

Who was Scott? Most likely it was B. F. Scott, who according to a 1900 census, owned the land here. According to Robert Haley Asher (1868-1953), who lived in the area from 1903-1946, an “ancient log cabin” stood around this area and was often occupied by transients and visitors. I like to think it belonged to Andreas & Elvira Scott, Native Americans who were listed in an 1880 census of the area. If you know anything more, please contact me and give me the scoop.

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Continue past the cabin and continue the descent.
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There’s a nice downhill with views of the surrounding hills.
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When you see the intersection of the Cedar Trail on the right, hike down it. Keep your eyes open, it’s easy to miss the trail turnoff.
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Now you are on the Cedar Trail.
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The trail is rolling as it follows the ridge.
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And then starts downhill through some massive cedar trees.
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As you approach the bottom of the hill, the trail gets steeper.
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And then you are at the bottom. Make the left at the t-junction.
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And here’s Doane Pond again.
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And then you’ll cross the bridge where you first started. Cross over and make the left to head back to the parking area.
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And here you are at the end of the hike!

This guide last updated on April 4, 2022. Did something change on this hike? If so, please contact me and let me know. I'll update the guide.

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